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===Revelation===
 
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* Most controversial book of the Bible
 
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* During the apostolic age, there were more writings which were considered to be ''not'' apostolic, which did not become part of the canon of the Orthodox Catholic Church.
 
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::*If you look at the writings of the early Christian era, those which have been canonized are actually a very small number of writings.  So not all writings of that time were considered to be part of the Church tradition.
 
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::*From the beginning, the Revelation of John was highly questioned for years.  In certain lists of scripture it did not exist.  In the council of Laodacia, in the 4th century, it is not listed as one of the books of the Bible.  Many highly respeced figures in Church history were against this book.
 
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:::*Anthelopious of Iconium (cousin of Basil the Great and Gregory of Nyssa) - ''It is a spurious book and should not be in the canon.''
 
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:::*St John Chrysostom never mentions it.
 
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::*For those Christians whose faith is based on the Bible, the questionable nature of Revelation can be distressing.  However, for the Orthodox, this is not the case, because the foundation of the life and teaching of the Church is in the ongoing spiritual life, tradition, worship, etc. of the Church community, and not in a book.
 
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::*After the 4th century Revelation was finally canonized.  However it still holds special status because it is the only book of the New Testament which is never read in Church.
 
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* Revelation is filled with references to the Old Testament.  If one doesn't know the Bible well, one will never understand Revelation.
 
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* Many things in Revelation are in the Church's life.
 
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::*The liturgy of the Church is inspiring Revelation and taken from Revelation.  It helps to understand Orthodox liturgy to know Revelation.
 
  
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::''In order to understand Orthodox liturgy, you have to know the book of Revelation. Because what is the main element of the Apocalypse,  is the celestial liturgy and the worship of the risen lamb, who is crucified, together with God, through the Holy Spirit, in this cosmic, celestial liturgy in which one has insight into the deepest mysteries of God and into the very end of the whole of history.  That's what Orthodox worship is all about, and that's what the book of Revelation is about, and the two come together.'' - Fr. Thomas Hopko, Great Tapes series, svspress.com
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===St. Symeon===
  
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* The Book of Revelation had some notable advocates for inclusion ''into'' the canon as well.
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:"Let us therefore put aside every vain and unprofitable disputation, and let us not seek ahead of time to learn what is proper to that hour, i.e., the Second Coming, but instead let us be persuaded by the Master Who says: "Search the Scriptures" (Jn. 5:39). Search, that is, and not meddle! Search the Scriptures and do not busy yourselves with disputes which lie outside the sacred writings. Search the Scriptures so that you may learn about faith, and hope, and love. About faith, so that you may not be tossed about by every wind which comes from the trickery of unstable men, but are rather rooted in the true dogma of the apostolic and catholic Church and "rightly divide" the word of her truth (2 Tim. 2:15). And not only this, but you should be taught as well to seek out the fruits of faith and the profit which derives from them through the practice of the commandments. When you have been enabled to find them, then indeed you shall be in possession of hope unashamed, and in the latter you shall possess the entirety of love for God. For it is impossible for anyone to possess perfect love for God otherwise than by grace of an unalloyed faith and a hope which is secure and unshakable. Why then do we abandon the examination of ourselves concerning these matters? And, if in fact we have that faith in God which He Himself - Who will judge us - says He will demand of us, why should we busy ourselves with matters which are beyond us, in particular when in truth we fail to see things which lie at our very feet." -- St. Symeon the New Theologian. First Ethical Discourse.
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::*Justin the Martyr (2nd Century)
 
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::*Irenaeus of Lyons
 
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::*Athanasius the Great
 
  
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* The author of Revelation is traditionally identified with John the Evangelist (author of the fourth Gospel)
 
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::*There was question about the authorship from the beginning.  No modern critic thinks that John wrote it.
 
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::*It is interesting to note that it is those who come from John are the defenders of Revelation.
 
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:::*Irenaeus, for example, was the direct disciple and ordained by Polycarp of Smyrna, who was himself a direct disciple of John.
 
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:::*Justin is also in the Johanine line.
 
  
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* The official title of the book is ''The Apocalypse of John''
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===Elder Paisios on the End Times===
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::* The term ''apocalypse'' means literally ''revelation'', or ''disclosure''
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::* ''Apocalypse is a particular type of revelation, however. It is a revelation to people capable of understanding the revelation, because they live within a certain spiritual, theological, liturgical, traditional world, which has its own history and language, and therefore its own mystical experience, so that this revelation, which is a revelation of God, which is a disclosure of an insight into truth -- and very particularly a truth of what is going on... It is written in cryptic language; it is written with images and symbols that only initiates can understand. It is not written for the world. It is written for the insiders.  For those who belong.  For those who are within God's realm.  And it is given to them so that they would understand what's happening to them... But has an application larger, wider, deeper, and mor ultimate, than just to them'' - Fr. Thomas Hopko
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:Before his repose in 1994, [Elder Paisios] was asked by one of his spiritual sons: "Elder, today there are so many people— billions who don't know Christ and so few of them who do know Him. What will happen?"
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::* Revelation is an archetypal vision which has a historical reality and yet is a way to interpret the totality of reality. It shows  what is happening to Christians at that time is also what is happening to Christians all the time until Christ's return.
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::* Revelation can only be properly understood from within the Orthodox catholic tradition.
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:Elder Paisios answered: "Things will happen which will shake the nations. It will not be the Second Coming, but it will be a Divine intervention. People will be searching for someone to speak to about Christ. They will pull you by the hand: 'Come here, sit down and tell me about Christ.'
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:-- Athanasios Rakovalis, Talks with Father Paisios ( Thessaloniki , 2000), p. 137. 2Cf. Fr. Seraphim Rose, "The Holy Fathers of Orthodox Spirituality I," The Orthodox Word, no. 58 (1974), p. 195.
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===Let Them Burn Your Body===
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:"Everything will happen suddenly. It may even happen tonight. Today you are deprived of one thing, tomorrow another. God is giving it to us a little at a time, and we stupid people don't understand. Let them burn your body, let them fry it, let them take your possessions - don't concern yourself. Give them away - they are not yours. You need your soul and Christ." -- St. Kosmos Aitolos
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See also [[Revelation]]

Latest revision as of 22:44, 12 October 2016

St. Symeon

"Let us therefore put aside every vain and unprofitable disputation, and let us not seek ahead of time to learn what is proper to that hour, i.e., the Second Coming, but instead let us be persuaded by the Master Who says: "Search the Scriptures" (Jn. 5:39). Search, that is, and not meddle! Search the Scriptures and do not busy yourselves with disputes which lie outside the sacred writings. Search the Scriptures so that you may learn about faith, and hope, and love. About faith, so that you may not be tossed about by every wind which comes from the trickery of unstable men, but are rather rooted in the true dogma of the apostolic and catholic Church and "rightly divide" the word of her truth (2 Tim. 2:15). And not only this, but you should be taught as well to seek out the fruits of faith and the profit which derives from them through the practice of the commandments. When you have been enabled to find them, then indeed you shall be in possession of hope unashamed, and in the latter you shall possess the entirety of love for God. For it is impossible for anyone to possess perfect love for God otherwise than by grace of an unalloyed faith and a hope which is secure and unshakable. Why then do we abandon the examination of ourselves concerning these matters? And, if in fact we have that faith in God which He Himself - Who will judge us - says He will demand of us, why should we busy ourselves with matters which are beyond us, in particular when in truth we fail to see things which lie at our very feet." -- St. Symeon the New Theologian. First Ethical Discourse.


Elder Paisios on the End Times

Before his repose in 1994, [Elder Paisios] was asked by one of his spiritual sons: "Elder, today there are so many people— billions who don't know Christ and so few of them who do know Him. What will happen?"
Elder Paisios answered: "Things will happen which will shake the nations. It will not be the Second Coming, but it will be a Divine intervention. People will be searching for someone to speak to about Christ. They will pull you by the hand: 'Come here, sit down and tell me about Christ.'
-- Athanasios Rakovalis, Talks with Father Paisios ( Thessaloniki , 2000), p. 137. 2Cf. Fr. Seraphim Rose, "The Holy Fathers of Orthodox Spirituality I," The Orthodox Word, no. 58 (1974), p. 195.


Let Them Burn Your Body

"Everything will happen suddenly. It may even happen tonight. Today you are deprived of one thing, tomorrow another. God is giving it to us a little at a time, and we stupid people don't understand. Let them burn your body, let them fry it, let them take your possessions - don't concern yourself. Give them away - they are not yours. You need your soul and Christ." -- St. Kosmos Aitolos

See also Revelation

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